The Joe Budden Podcast Episode 917 | Memoirs

TL;DR

Joe Budden and crew discuss parenting frustrations, child support complexity, and the alleged kidnapping and robbery of Gucci Mane by Big 30 and associates.

Key Points

• 1.Parenting realities hit different in your 40s. Joe reflects on how the dad he imagined being — breaking generational curses, happy family — differs completely from waking up to hungry kids demanding Uber Eats at 7am.
• 2.Family longevity is a running theme. Joe's Aunt Catherine is turning 90 and still cooks for the whole family every Sunday; Joe jokes his family lives forever unless you 'do it yourself.'
• 3.Child support is treated as nuanced, not black and white. The crew debates cases where judges refuse to lower payments after income drops, citing a writer whose support was set in a high-earning year and never reduced.
• 4.High-earning artists can get trapped in impossible child support orders. A shared lawyer's clients were paying $40–50k per month after a monster smash; when they fell off, judges refused to lower it because the court assumed they were capable of earning that amount.
• 5.Puff Daddy once held the record for highest child support in New York State history. The amount was reportedly around $50,000/month; he reportedly got it significantly reduced by documenting all the direct expenses he already covered.
• 6.New Jersey and Texas are described as more male-friendly child support states. Joe credits NJ's 'child's best interest' framework, contrasting it with California, New York, and Florida, which he says heavily favor mothers.
• 7.The crew jokes about recognizing when you were someone's 'bottom of the night' option. The bit escalates into fantasy-team analogies — tracking when a woman's partner is on a road trip to time availability.
• 8.Big 30 and eight others were arrested in connection with the alleged kidnapping and robbery of Gucci Mane. The crew reads out the nine suspects' names — including Lantrell Williams Sr., Cadarius Waters, Demarcus Glover, and Dario McDaniel — drawing comedic reactions.
• 9.The alleged motive was forcing Gucci to release Pooh Shiesty from his 1017 Records deal. A studio meeting in Dallas was set up to negotiate Pooh's exit; it allegedly turned into an armed robbery with a Draco pistol drawn.
• 10.Pooh Shiesty was on probation and home confinement in Dallas at the time. The crew notes he attended what was essentially a label business meeting while wearing an ankle monitor, calling his decision-making 'on brand.'
• 11.The robbers allegedly posted stolen jewelry and watches on Instagram immediately after. The crew condemns this as clout-chasing stupidity, saying glorifying such behavior sends kids a one-way ticket to prison.
• 12.The alleged perpetrators reportedly banked on Gucci adhering to a no-snitch code. Mark Lamont Hill argues they believed as long as Gucci didn't cooperate with police, they'd be safe — but Gucci's team reportedly included off-duty cops.
• 13.Gucci Mane identifying suspects sparked 'snitch' debate online. The crew references a 2021 video of Gucci saying 'don't involve no police,' but argue the contradiction is mitigated by this being a formal business meeting, not a street situation.
• 14.Mark distinguishes street-code snitching from civilian crime reporting. He explains that street rules apply even when someone robs you solo — you're still expected to handle it in the street — but notes Gucci may no longer operate in that world.
• 15.Pooh Shiesty's broader pattern of poor decision-making is highlighted. Prior incidents cited include allegedly stealing sneakers and shooting someone, pulling a gun in a strip club over dropped money, and doing a Ben Nadon livestream from a Maybach while claiming to be home on house arrest.